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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:21:02 -0700
From: Rand Lindsly (Iconoclast at large)
Subject: Exit Order
Some very interesting information....
If you want to discuss, respond to Bryan
at Skydive Az.
Rand
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Bryan Burke writes:
Subject: Exit order
From: The Danger and Training Advisor at Skydive Arizona
This is the text of a memo I put out to our freefly community.
As more people come to Skydive Arizona to participate in skydives with a
very fast fall rate, a serious safety problem arises. I am soliciting
comments from the freefly community to determine drop zone policy. Please
read over the following discussion of the problem and feel free to contact
me if you have input. The issue in question is this: where should
skydivers with a very fast fall rate exit? First, last, or in the middle?
There are several considerations.
From an aircraft operations standpoint, as a general rule whichever group
will have the slowest climb out should leave first. On a calm day the
aircraft on jump run covers about 175 feet per second, or one mile in 30
seconds. Assuming the practical distance that a square canopy open at
2,000 feet can cover is at most about one mile, that means that the first
people out would just barely make the landing area from one mile short,
while the last would be able to make it back from one mile long. In other
words, all jumpers have to be out in a two mile long jump run or some will
land out, or a second pass will be required. In time terms, on a calm day
no more than 60 seconds can elapse from when the first jumpers leave the
airplane to when the last jumper exits. At busy events with several
aircraft flying, second passes are not an option.
Let's take a sample jump run, where a large group will take up to 20
seconds to climb out, a 4-way 12 to 15, 2-ways six to eight, solos five,
and AFF students about 12 to 15. Our load has an 8-way, two 4-ways, two
2-ways, a solo, and one AFF. That adds up to between 70 and 80 seconds
from green light to last out. But it is possible to make it all on one
jump run if the eight way gets out first, because the pilot figures at
least 15 to 20 seconds for the first climb out. That brings us back to 60
seconds from first out to last out, and one pass. Needless to say, we
don't want to do an extra pass because 2-ways want to leave before 8-ways.
(If the 2-ways get out first, the pilot can only count on a five to ten
second climb out. He has to put the light on 1/3 to 1/2 mile closer to the
dz than he would for the slow climb out.)
That's the timing reason why small groups shouldn't leave first. Now lets
talk about separation from other jumpers. First of all, anyone who counts
on vertical separation for safety is out of touch with reality. I see
people in freefall at 1,500 feet and lower routinely, so just because
someone plans to open at 2,500 doesn't mean you should bet your life on
it. Everyone needs to open in their own column of air. Horizontal
separation is the only guarantee of security. The only real reasons - and
they are good ones - why students and tandems get out last are that a
student is more likely to balk or ride down, and that canopies opening
high can get back from a longer spot. I repeat, horizontal separation is
the only guarantee of safety. Vertical separation is a nice idea but
cannot be counted on since a minor loss of awareness or a long snivel will
eliminate it instantly.
Now, a quick digression about fall rates. Follow these categories out or
time their videos if you don't believe me. Light freestylists doing
routine freestyle do not fall significantly faster than a fast falling
four way. Freeflyers fall about 30% faster than normal. Small skyboards
fall fairly fast, if the rider is standing, but big ones fall very slow -
slower than most RW, usually about the same speed as tandems. Because of
their exits, they must leave first, and because of their complex emergency
procedures, they must pull high. Leaving first and pulling high defies
conventional wisdom, yet not once have we had a problem with slow falling
skysurfers getting out first and pulling at 3,500. In fact, as long as the
first person pulls higher than the break off altitude of the following
group, they are a contribution to safety, not a detriment, provided
adequate time was left between groups at the exit.
We do have a recurring problem maintaining safe separation when the
freeflyers get out first. Typically a freefly pair will have a forty five
second freefall and open at 2,500 to 3,000 feet. Let's imagine that they
are followed by an RW group that has a 10 second climb out. Now, let's say
you are a freeflyer jumping a Stiletto. A Stiletto (assuming a 30 mph
forward speed, which I can document is a reliable figure) covers about 45
feet per second on a calm day. If you open 30 seconds (shorter freefall
plus exit separation time) before the RW group leaving after you and turn
directly towards the dz (which you will, since otherwise you can't make it
back from getting out first unless you cheat on the climb out, spot for
yourself, and force the pilot to go around, which REALLY pisses us off) in
that 30 seconds you will cover over 1,300 horizontal feet. This would put
you about 400 feet from the center of a group leaving the plane ten
seconds after you. In theory, that would just barely be enough, except
that a good tracker can do about 70 feet per second, so if they track
towards you for six seconds they are right on top of you. Furthermore, a
modern canopy descends about 800 feet in 30 seconds (also documented) so
if one of you pulls at 3,000 to get back from a short spot, for camera
effect, or whatever - by the time you are at 2,000 you are well into the
danger zone of the group that followed you.
So far, the big sky theory has taken care of us most of the time but I
have heard of a couple close calls and more than once found myself
directly over the freeflyers if they leave first. Having seen the
consequences of a freefaller/canopy collision more than once, I want to
minimize the possibilities. And they go way up as soon as we add wind to
the exercise. Here's why. In a 30 mile per hour breeze, the plane only
covers 130 feet per second, instead of 175. In ten seconds of exit
separation, the airplane only covers 1,300 horizontal feet instead of
1,750. Worse still, the RW group is in freefall for a longer time, and
consequently gets blown further. Let's say the freeflyer is in freefall
for 45 seconds, and the RW for 70. In 45 seconds you get blown nearly
2,000 horizontal feet. The RW blows just over 3,000. That leaves only 300
feet of horizontal separation without taking tracking or canopy movement
into account! Make the winds 50 miles per hour, and the RW group drifts
over 1,800 horizontal feet further than the freeflyers! Meanwhile, in ten
seconds the plane only covers 1,100 feet. A 20 second exit separation will
still have the RW group opening 400 feet from the freeflyers, not counting
canopy movement or tracking!
Having opened right over freeflyers before, and having just heard from
several expert skydivers who narrowly missed freeflyers, and having
watched RW groups blow over freeflyers on windy days, I think we have a
problem. You might say, make sure the groups leave longer between exits.
Well, we do tell them, but if they wait 20 seconds instead of ten, that
still doesn't solve the problem because Freeflyers still fly under them
under canopy. So for fast fallers your only choice if you want to get out
first is to always fly perpendicular to the line of flight for 30 seconds
before turning towards the dz. While I am confident most of you are aware
enough to do this, it brings us back to the original time on jump run
problem. Basically, Skydive Arizona isn't willing to do a lot of second
passes just so freeflyers can get out first.
Getting out last except for students solves virtually every problem. You
control the horizontal separation, so you can ensure you won't be
overtaking anyone in freefall. The windier it gets, the safer you are
because you get extra separation by having slower fallers blow away from
you. Students take long climb outs and pull real high, so no problem
there: just get open and fly off the wind line for a few seconds to be
clear of them in the unlikely event that they are in freefall at 2,500
feet.
As for the argument that the canopy separation is necessary in the landing
area, I don't buy it. Opening over the top instead of short, you can
spiral down to make sure you get on the turn around loads. As for
congestion at the landing area, no one else on the loads seem to have any
problem, although you may not always get to land right by the fence.
Please give this some thought. Unless one of you gives me an extremely
convincing reason why you need to leave first, such as a safe spot for the
skyball, I will make it standard policy that exit order will always be
1) skysurfers
2) freefall groups, largest to smallest, regardless of fall rate
(Note (Skr): I believe this is a typo since the real rule is: )
(2a - relative work groups, largest to smallest and then )
(2b - fast fall groups, largest to smallest and then )
(3 - AFF and tandems )
3) AFF and tandems, plus any other very high openings. The main
reason for high openings leaving last is not separation, it's that they
can make it back from a long spot!
Thank you,
Bryan Burke
DZ manager/Safety and Training Advisor
So, that's the current thinking here. Yes, we have considered jump runs
that are crosswind, offset crosswind, parabolic, and semi parabolic. There
are good practical reasons why we don't use these, so don't bother
bringing that up. And if ANYONE still thinks ground speed doesn't matter,
they can e-mail me (skr/delete/spam) for a virtual flogging instead of
bringing it up again on the public forum. Quit with the hypothetical
boats, rivers, tractors, and sheep and get out and ride a few airplanes.
Sit up by the GPS on a windy day to get in touch with the fact that if you
put 20 people in the air in half the usual space you are greatly
increasing the probability they will run into each other. However, if you
persist in believing the sun goes around the earth and only airspeed
matters, I will record your name and you will not be allowed to jump here
until buying me a punitive case of green bottles and agreeing to wear a
large scarlet A on your jumpsuit so everyone will know you are a moron and
can plan accordingly.
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